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Charm School

It was nice to get back to the science (https://luysii.wordpress.com/2024/04/17/cholesin/) after several long detours through current events but reality continues to intrude.  The firing of 30 Google staffers who protested Google’s choice of clients and the mass arrests and academic suspension of the Columbia University students who set up a protest encampment on campus is worth a post about a bit of history.

Just shy of 56 years ago I entered the service under the Berry Plan as an Air Force doctor.

After serving as an army doc for two years in ’68 – ’70, a time when we had 500,000 troops in Vietnam, I left with little respect for its leadership. I was stateside at Fitzsimons General Hospital, one of the Army’s premier hospitals, which was a plum assignment (because the army was very short of neurologists). This meant that 2 year docs who’d served their first year in Vietnam got their choice of assignment when returning stateside. So I saw plenty of them and  NOT ONE thought we were winning over there, despite what the top brass said to the press and the president.

So who would have thought that 33 years later I’d be friendly with and respect a retired Major General, George Baker. Never say never. He was a very intelligent man, an orthopedic surgeon, who’d been chief at Walter Reed and found retirement boring, so he practiced at my hospital. He told me about something he called charm school. It was where officers newly promoted to  General  rank were sent for training. They were told to toe the straight and narrow sexually and in other matters, and that if a planeload of them went down, the army would have no trouble at all filling their shoes.

Why should future protestors hear about this? Because, according to the net, Columbia accepts under one in 25 applicants and Google accepts around one in five hundred (look it up).  They are not so wonderful that they can’t be easily replaced with people of comparable quality.

It’s veterans’ day

Well it’s Veterans Day (11 November).  It was good for a free cup of coffee at Rusty’s.  I think it’s worth republishing an old post about yet another disaster inflicted on the lower classes by our foreign policy elites.  It brackets half a century of misadventures.

Who lost Afghanistan ?

Who lost Afghanistan?  No one.  We were never winning, despite being told so.  It is not worth one more American life.  It is Vietnam all over again.

Here I speak with some authority, being an Air Force Officer and physician taking care of maimed US soldiers from Vietnam from ’68 – ’70 at Fitzsimons General Hospital in Denver.  The Army was short of neurologists, so I was assigned there for two years despite being an Air Force Officer and despite having only a year of residency under my belt.  Only fully trained neurologists were sent to Vietnam.

Vietnam is like Chile, a long strip of a country along a coast.  As a result, no wounded soldier was more than 20 minutes away by chopper from a fully equipped surgical field hospital, so the people surviving were far more gravely injured than those in world war II.

The tour of duty in Vietnam was 1 year, but the term of service for docs was two.  (Back then I asked one of my uncles what the term of service was in WWII — what do you think it was?   Answer — until the war was over). The doctors coming back after one year pretty much had their pick of the best places, and many wound up at Fitzsimons.  I talked (and worked with) a lot of them.  These were not career military with an axe to grind.  Not one of them thought we were winning.

They spoke of the corruption of our so-called allies, selling American military equipment to the Viet Cong, etc. etc.  The collapse when it came was swift, just as it is today in Afghanistan.

The only positive thing about Vietnam is that the country picked up a lot of smart Vietnamese.  One son went to Cornell with several children of Vietnamese boat people who came here with nothing.   Hopefully we’ll do the same with some of the Afghans.

We were never winning in Afghanistan despite the propaganda we’ve been fed.  The equally sudden collapse of our ‘allies’ in both countries is typical.

Although most conservative websites are unhappy, not all are.  The following is written by a vet who actually was over there

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/13/u-s-leaders-have-been-lying-to-us-about-afghanistan-for-nearly-20-years/

This is from “The Federalist”  a conservative website.

Who lost Afghanistan ?

Who lost Afghanistan?  No one.  We were never winning, despite being told so.  It is not worth one more American life.  It is Vietnam all over again.

Here I speak with some authority, being an Air Force Officer and physician taking care of maimed US soldiers from Vietnam from ’68 – ’70 at Fitzsimons General Hospital in Denver.  The Army was short of neurologists, so I was assigned there for two years despite being an Air Force Officer and despite having only a year of residency under my belt.  Only fully trained neurologists were sent to Vietnam.

Vietnam is like Chile, a long strip of a country along a coast.  As a result, no wounded soldier was more than 20 minutes away by chopper from a fully equipped surgical field hospital, so the people surviving were far more gravely injured than those in world war II.

The tour of duty in Vietnam was 1 year, but the term of service for docs was two.  (Back then I asked one of my uncles what the term of service was in WWII — what do you think it was?   Answer — until the war was over). The doctors coming back after one year pretty much had their pick of the best places, and many wound up at Fitzsimons.  I talked (and worked with) a lot of them.  These were not career military with an axe to grind.  Not one of them thought we were winning.

They spoke of the corruption of our so-called allies, selling American military equipment to the Viet Cong, etc. etc.  The collapse when it came was swift, just as it is today in Afghanistan.

The only positive thing about Vietnam is that the country picked up a lot of smart Vietnamese.  One son went to Cornell with several children of Vietnamese boat people who came here with nothing.   Hopefully we’ll do the same with some of the Afghans.

We were never winning in Afghanistan despite the propaganda we’ve been fed.  The equally sudden collapse of our ‘allies’ in both countries is typical.

Although most conservative websites are unhappy, not all are.  The following is written by a vet who actually was over there

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/13/u-s-leaders-have-been-lying-to-us-about-afghanistan-for-nearly-20-years/

This is from “The Federalist”  a conservative website.